Change Your Setlist Verve!

Love_And_Unrest · Change Your Setlist Verve!

No matter how well their recent performances are, im still annoyed that they're playing the same old setlist songs. I've got quite a few 2008 bootlegs now, and all of them are basically the same. i really hope they mix it up a bit and come up with some original setlists.

Lucky Woman · Re: Change Your Setlist Verve!

windinthewillows

it would be a a bit (VERY!) unfair to put songs like noise epic and columbo and appalachian springs on a CD and then never play them live!

that would piss me off. considerably.

Dago

I'm sure they will.

Love_And_Unrest

Even though i love these songs, i would love The Verve to do some gigs without lucky man, BSS, DDW and others i missed out that have been played to death.

Lucky Woman

I agree, not to mention Valium Skies, Judas and Numbness...

Dago

Let RatherBe on the setlist,please,for me

Lucky Woman

Lucky Woman

ANorthernHistory99

I strongly support this post. It makes the shows more unpredictable to change up the set every night. This is why I'm a big fan of Dave Matthews Band, and why they still remain as my favorite live band as opposed to The Verve (my favorite studio band). Go to a two night stand at the same venue, and you're guaranteed to get a completely different show from the previous night at a Dave Matthews concert. Just saw them recently two nights in a row when they came in town. On the second night, they repeated one song that was played the night before. And both shows were fantastic. The Verve also has more than enough material to deliver two completely different shows, and still remain equally fantastic to one another. [/b]

Appalachian Springs · setlist

if the band plays new gigs. then all 10 songs should be included. 'cause all those you said are concert-songs, but what about singing along with I See Houses or Numbness! Columbo and Appalachian also are gonna be great live i guess.

front man

greenpaulo

i totally agree Love and Unrest. I wish they'd drop all the singles from Urban Hymns from the playlist inc BSS, but they do it for the "Urban Hymns only - "do they have another album?" fans". I'd heard Nick say they think they have to cater for these fans or they'd get boo'ed off - not likely! If you've gotta play UH tunes why not - Catching the Butterfly, This Time, Neon Wilderness, One Day - surely these fans have heard these as well. I wouldn't mind if I never heard TDDW, LM or Sonnet ever again

openspaces2 · mixing up the set

I am glad I got to go to the Blackpool concert for a wide varied set including LTDB , GG , AT and AMCS and the northern soul / urban hymns greatest hits. I would like to hear the new stuff aswell as a couple of singles off of ASIH but they don't seem to want to consider playing this stuff. I mean there was a ten year gap so in a way anything played off the first three albums is a trip down memory lane so why so little storm in heaven. Hopefully they will tour four and with it sounding a bit like a ASIH they will play a few more early tunes. Long live the verve!

Lucky Woman

windinthewillows · Re: setlist

openspaces2 · mixing up the set

I agree with Lucky Woman about playing catching the butterfly it's got a lot of drive to that tune don't see why it can't be played. I love the Haigh Hall version of that song. I also like Neon wilderness that riff sends me into space.

windinthewillows

the rolling people and come on for me, from urban hymns.

Lucky Woman

willmax

Have to disagree with what most of you are saying.

A Verve concert that didn't include there biggest hit singles would go down like a damp squib. What you have to realise is that a very high percentage of crowds at big gigs arn't as big as fans as most of you on here, are going to one date on the tour and arn't collecting as many bootlegs as possible. As soon as a b-side or a lesser known song is played all that would happen is people would take it as an opportunity for a toilet break or go to the bar. Sad, but a fact of life. When I saw them at Manchester Central on the reunion tour every time a song started that wasn't one of the big Urban Hymes songs, people were moving away uninterested. You go to a Verve gig, you expect to hear there best songs. Same goes for every other band in the World.

I'm a big Arctic Monkeys fan and saw them 3 times last year. One of the gigs they decided to play 1 B-side, went down a storm. The next gig I went to they played 4 or 5, plus some unreleased stuff and the atmosphere at the gig was just horrendous. No energy in the crowd, nothing. A week later they'd dropped most of them and brought back crowd favourites and was one of the best gigs I've been to.

If they do tour again, and I hope the rumours of fall outs arn't as big as the press are making them, of course you will see a lot of Forth featuing in the set lists. But I'd be shocked if its at the expence of the big hits, and I don't think just because you've heard them play them 100s of times that you should deny a fan going for the first time getting the goosebumps when BSS kicks in.

Lucky Woman

Love_And_Unrest

The thing is for me, whenever i get a new bootleg i always skip BSS, LM etc. cos i seriously cant listen to another live version that sounds the same. Unless its a version like the Jools Holland one from 97 which is more original.

windinthewillows

sinc

The problem now is with the release of the new album there is even less chance of the early stuff being played. I for one am pretty disappointed with Forth, It has its moments but I dont think I could stomach a UH/Forth setlist for live gigs which will happen,

Lucky Woman

greenpaulo

Lucky Woman

^^^ Yes, well said. All of it.

As they're not in it for the money, they don't need those big arena tours where fans sod off when the big hits aren't being performed.
They'll still make a good living with smaller tours and maybe there wouldn't be so much band conflict if they played what they wanted to play rather than what the masses wanted...

hindleyite

I miss Stormy Clouds.

Lucky Woman

greenpaulo

i don't get tired of the Nothern Soul tracks live either. Well actually "This Is Music" was beginning to get a tiny (and i mean tiny) bit boring but then the Maida Vale version was AWESOME and completely replenished it for me.

I couldn't ever get bored of Life's an Ocean - the basslines just too good.

razorboy

i think the main thing, as stated before, is the festival atmosphere... the setlists for the nov/dec gigs were spot on... they aren't going to overdo it and play every single b-side at every show, but having a rotating group of older/more obscure tunes (slide away, gravity, man called sun, already there, damage, all in the mind, the sun the sea, etc) that they could play a few different things from every night would be good. and yeah, the northern soul stuff never gets old... stormy clouds is massive.

the festival setlists are also quite a bit shorter, because they have to be... that wasn't the case in nov/dec, and won't be going forward.

i think it's accurate to say that they have too many UH fans to bin every song they play from that record. those are the tunes that made them huge, for better or for worse. they can play rolling people, come on, BSS, DDW, sonnet and lucky man any night, as far as i'm concerned, and probably will.

i think a lot of us are spoiled and sick of those songs because we've seen and heard richard performing them in an almost identical style for the better part of 7 years, 3 tours. they take on new life when the verve play them though... there's an edge and a vibe to things like LM and sonnet and BSS that isn't there when played by another group of musicians... can't be denied.

i'm just hoping i'll get to see them play anything... i live in the states, and i'll have to be sectioned if they don't play chicago soon. to say i'm ready to see my favorite band of all time for the first time is a vast understatement... COME ON!!!

Lucky Woman

Valium_Skies · Set List

I just hope McCabe gets his way and they do small gigs like Empress Ballroom in the future, full of big verve fans doing the old classics, maybe even with the obvious 4 thrown in. That would be one for the diary.

vervecovers

There are too many things in this thread to agree with and a lot of them disagree with each other. It's just so hard when there's so much music to make choices.

I wish they were big enough to set up two shows where they say night A will be for all the singles you want to hear, night B will be for (I don't want to use the phrase "Real fans" because that seems to arrogant to me) those who might appreciate our back catalog. I know that will never happen, especially here in the states. I just want them to know how much their older stuff is appreciated and I wonder how much of that they can feel during a show where it's obviously all about UH. We are the people who literally dream about this band at night and spend time discussing them on a daily basis so it only seems fair to give us a nod now and then. I hope that doesn't sound too selfish. We just have way more of our lives and passion invested in them and it would be nice to be rewarded for that. That said, I've never been disappointed, but I've also never seen GG live.

At the same time. No UH=no tour (at least from a business standpoint).

And on dropping songs from the set. I could have done without BSS, but how they've married it to LIN is just perfection. They need to end the first set with Stormy Clouds/reprise in my opinion.

greenpaulo

Lucky Woman

windinthewillows

greenpaulo

please do tell?

Lucky Woman

razorboy

i would much rather have a set heavy on the first two albums and early singles, no doubt... but it just isn't realistic. you can't disinvent UH. they now have 4 albums + singles and b-sides to choose from, and it would be nice to have a balanced representation of all of them.

i love the idea of multiple shows in each city... even at different venues. the comparison is bogus in almost every way, but the stones did it in 2002 with a stadium show, an arena show and a theater show, all with different setlists, with stadium being mostly hits, down to the theater with obscure album tracks. obviously, that wouldn't work for the verve, but if they could find a way to separate the types of shows, with one mainly based on singles or UH tracks, and one based more on the loose, jam-friendly early tracks where they could stretch out more and play b-sides and such... that'd be nice.

at the same time, i'm just thankful they're back, and if i'm fortunate enough for them to pass through chicago, i won't be complaining about what they play, whatever it is.

greenpaulo

choonin in

Lucky Man
Sonnet
History
TDDW
BSS
Love Is Noise
Northern Soul
Slide Away
Already There
This is Music
Stormy Clouds

Encore:
Sit & Wonder
Rather Be
Judas
Columbo
Noise Epic

Is that not a fair enough setlist?

The hits are at the beginning for a reason

greenpaulo

Still waiting to hear the new album so i've left out any new tracks but so far i think this would be a sweet setlist - 20 songs - thats how many they played at Blackpool;

Let The Damage Begin
Blue
This Time
Slide Away
Back on My Feet Again
The Rolling People
Catching The Butterfly
Already There
Weeping Willow
So It Goes
Life's An Ocean
Grey Skies
Gravity Grave
BSS
Come On
She's A Superstar

Encore:

The Sun, The Sea
A Man Called Sun
All In The Mind
Stormy Clouds/Reprise

That was hard work! I'm gonna post it before I change my mind.

front man

choonin in

Ah yes, the only time that was played since the reunion, i beleive?

Lucky us

front man

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